deductions and credits from the tax code but hasn't been specific, a lot of those deduction and cred detroit there to help working families and lower income people. so again, we really don't know and that's why he has opened himself up to a lot of criticism that his plan would end up cutting taxes on the wealthy and increasing them on middle and lower income households. >> erin, you covered the campaign in the spring and summer and romney and ryan said they closed loopholes in the tax code. annie just mentioned tax code but they just won't tell us which ones. take a listen. >> give me an example of a loophole that you will close. >> well, i can tell that you people at the high end, high-income taxpayers are going to have fewer deductions and exemptions. >> don't viewers have a right to know which loopholes you're going to go after? >> so mitt romney and i, based on our experience, think the best way to do this is to show the framework, show the outlines of these plans and work with congress to do this. >> tax loophole also is there a reason you guys respect naming specific tax loopholes? >>